There is too much thought crime thinking in this area.
My first wife's older sister was wild when she was young - she developed early, was stacked, and could and did pass for an adult when she was 13. They lived in an area with a naval base and she would routinely sneak out. Her mother would tell the sailors who would bring her home at night that "She may have an ID that says that she is 19, but the youngun is far under the age of consent. I am not blaming you, but let your mates know that she is off limits."
A fellow dormmate from college had a similar problem with his step daughter. At one point he described her as "14 going on 24".
The law makes no allowances for good faith and such young women are walking legal catastrophes for anybody in the younger end of the dating / mating pool.
Lukas’s description seems pretty apt for a lot of men who go after teens as well. They’re usually quite lonely IRL but are involved in youth-dominated hobbies, and are autistic enough to be socially oblivious about their age. A lot of 24 year olds who seem to not grasp that they’re not 16 anymore, so they end up regressing back to the age of those surrounding them.
We live in a world where many of us are around people at work, and thats it. No church. No bar. No card games at Tracy's on Thursdays. No clubs/organizations. A lonely female HS teacher assimilates into the young culture, and maybe gets excited about the taboo aspect.
However, she should do more to meet people at night and on the weekends. Night classes. The gym. Church. Whatever.
Yes female “offenders” are weird. Pedophile studies mostly focus on men preferentially attracted to prepubescent (or pubescent) children. Far more than to adults. It is this attraction pattern that gets some of them into trouble.
- Why conflating pedophilia, ephebophilia and situational offending into the same explanatory framework ? It produces one that is too broad and too imprecise to be useful. Honestly. I don’t think those categories constitute a single phenomenon. They have different contexts, different patterns and discussed in different literature.
- Power seeking behaviors and agreeableness are not mutually exclusive. Power seeking requires opportunity/access and rationalization. Not low level of agreeableness. People can be warm and accommodating while systematically exploiting a structural asymmetry and it is pretty common.
- Also, the neuroticism argument is one I personally liked but it doesn’t explain the reason of the attraction in the first place, rather, the vulnerability to acting on it.
- Finally, the argument of children/teenagers seen as substitute to adults when it comes to sexual and romantic relationships, begs the question it’s supposed to answer. Why would a lonely adult consider, just consider, a child as suitable replacement?
There is too much thought crime thinking in this area.
My first wife's older sister was wild when she was young - she developed early, was stacked, and could and did pass for an adult when she was 13. They lived in an area with a naval base and she would routinely sneak out. Her mother would tell the sailors who would bring her home at night that "She may have an ID that says that she is 19, but the youngun is far under the age of consent. I am not blaming you, but let your mates know that she is off limits."
A fellow dormmate from college had a similar problem with his step daughter. At one point he described her as "14 going on 24".
The law makes no allowances for good faith and such young women are walking legal catastrophes for anybody in the younger end of the dating / mating pool.
They are minors!! Who gives a shit about how stacked they are!!!
How can the person who meets them tell that they are minors? They appear older and may have a fake ID.
re: conscientiousness, I don't trust anyone who can plan in advance. Planning for *what*, exactly? Planning to RAPE KIDS?
lol
Lukas’s description seems pretty apt for a lot of men who go after teens as well. They’re usually quite lonely IRL but are involved in youth-dominated hobbies, and are autistic enough to be socially oblivious about their age. A lot of 24 year olds who seem to not grasp that they’re not 16 anymore, so they end up regressing back to the age of those surrounding them.
We live in a world where many of us are around people at work, and thats it. No church. No bar. No card games at Tracy's on Thursdays. No clubs/organizations. A lonely female HS teacher assimilates into the young culture, and maybe gets excited about the taboo aspect.
However, she should do more to meet people at night and on the weekends. Night classes. The gym. Church. Whatever.
Yes female “offenders” are weird. Pedophile studies mostly focus on men preferentially attracted to prepubescent (or pubescent) children. Far more than to adults. It is this attraction pattern that gets some of them into trouble.
what about taboo effect
I think it’s real
Hmmm a few things:
- Why conflating pedophilia, ephebophilia and situational offending into the same explanatory framework ? It produces one that is too broad and too imprecise to be useful. Honestly. I don’t think those categories constitute a single phenomenon. They have different contexts, different patterns and discussed in different literature.
- Power seeking behaviors and agreeableness are not mutually exclusive. Power seeking requires opportunity/access and rationalization. Not low level of agreeableness. People can be warm and accommodating while systematically exploiting a structural asymmetry and it is pretty common.
- Also, the neuroticism argument is one I personally liked but it doesn’t explain the reason of the attraction in the first place, rather, the vulnerability to acting on it.
- Finally, the argument of children/teenagers seen as substitute to adults when it comes to sexual and romantic relationships, begs the question it’s supposed to answer. Why would a lonely adult consider, just consider, a child as suitable replacement?
>Why conflating pedophilia, ephebophilia and situational offending into the same explanatory framework
I did not. My argument was that they were different things, but caused by similar underyling causes.